Car System - English

[katherinesdaddy]

Hello, I am testing out the faller car system in N scale, and I have watched the Garret videos on you tube.
I have one main question I have asked over and over, and need an answer.
In the Miniature Wonderland. I noticed they use a router to create the channels for the cars and planes to flow/follow. I need to know what kind of material it is that they put in there, to allow the car magnets and plane magnets on the small armature, I saw that it looks black and tape like.
The faller system gives you a metal wire, that is not working well for me, I have tried lots of alternatives,
But I need to find out what Miniature wonderland uses, and where I can get the material they use.
Thank you
Stephen

[Datterich]

Hi katherinesdaddy, welcome here.

First: In Miniatur Wunderland Hamburg they have a car system in H0 scale (1:87), the aeroplane modells are nearly in scale 1:100.

In Hamburg, they developed for many years to create the result we can watch now. So it is understandable, that they don't make public the secrets of their system, isn't it? But it is true, that the car system there as well as the aeroplane system is working with a metal wire (magnetic). Have a look at "Gerrits Diary No. 16" to see more.

Kind regards from Germany
Datterich
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Sorry, the video is in German, but watch the construction -

[katherinesdaddy]

Thank you very much for the reply. I have seen every episode of Gerrit's diary, and they are one of the best things I have viewed, which spawned this question.lol....We get very excited when a new video is released, and we are very happy that the CC has an English option. I understand about the secrets and copy right etc....I was hoping that I wouldn't spend 8 years to figure out the resolution.
It appears in the video, that it is a black looking wide surface.
We were under the impression, that the black stuff was the metal(magnetic or metal) material that the vehicles would follow,
In a different video, where they are laying the material, and working on cross overs,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxFNSAK7Feo
volume 3, at the minute mark 5 minutes 14 seconds, they show a very close up picture.
I do not see a wire, only the flat black material.
but at mark 5.26, there is a spool of wire sitting there.
so we were wondering, is the wire under neath this black material?
and what is that black material?
again, wonderful video's. we love them very much, and we have seen Gerrit so much, he feels like family.
We have spent about 400 hours testing different wires already, and looking for help.
Thank you kindly.
appreciate you
Stephen

[martin]

Hi Stephen,
Miniature wonderland is using a small 3 x 1mm magnetic band, not a wire. So this material is magnetic itself.
Yu can buy it for example in these shops:
http://www.bau187pkw.de/index.php/cat/c ... 9c0820fa5b
or
http://www.conrad.de/ce/de/product/4042 ... ssensystem

Cheers
Martin

[HaNull]

Hi, Stephen!

and what is that black material?

I presume it's not a MiWuLa trade secret: it's magnetic tape.
It's the stuff that is normally used to keep the door of the fridge closed.

A German dealer who specialises in car system cars &c. sells such tape: 3 mm wide, 1 mm thick. They recommend it should be covered by a sheet of card board or plastics, 0.5 mm thick.
The magnet on the car no longer has to touch the ground - the batteries last longer (less friction) and the car magnets leave no traces.

Here's a link to the dealer's site:
http://www.bau187pkw.de/product_info.ph ... tband.html
I'm not related to that dealer and I never bought from him. I post the link as the page contains a description of the magnetic tape discussed here.

[HahNullMuehr]

... and one more "Hi" to Stephen,

I think, I might add one remark to the magnetic tape. It has got it's own oddity.
As long as it is layed out flat and uninterrupted, it works well. But at the ends (level crossings, turn outs) the magnetic field tends to flip over and disturb the track magnet of the cars concerned. This phenomenon you will encounter with every kind of magnet, since the field lines close in bows to the opposite pole.

To minimize this effect, car system specialists recommend to build the very ends of every strip slightly bent down (just 2 or 3 millimetres), so the cars will go steady straight ahead.

Regards, and, by the way, welcome to our forum.

[katherinesdaddy]

these are fantastic tips. love em.
the bend down is specifically something I had experienced before when I tried this magnetic tape, that was about 2mmx8mm. i.e. the north/south pole issues with it.

[Dankwardt]

More information

http://www.streetsystem.de 1 x 3 mm magnet video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MIs9r9AfK0
http://www.mader-magnet-truck.de 3 x 6 mm magnet

some translatet pages
http://wiki-en.dc-car.de/index.php?title=Main_Page
from
http://wiki.dc-car.de

Video 2.3 in english
http://wiki.dc-car.de/index.php?title=Kategorie:Bilder

[katherinesdaddy]

Excellent links. thank you sooo much, I particularly learned a lot on the youtube video about routing and capturing by seeing that round about capture points.

More information

http://www.streetsystem.de 1 x 3 mm magnet video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MIs9r9AfK0
http://www.mader-magnet-truck.de 3 x 6 mm magnet

some translatet pages
http://wiki-en.dc-car.de/index.php?title=Main_Page
from
http://wiki.dc-car.de

Video 2.3 in english
http://wiki.dc-car.de/index.php?title=Kategorie:Bilder